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Fire Escape: Release EP5

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4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2026

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

As wildland fires burn hotter and stronger across California, Amika and the incarcerated firefighters are put in extreme danger. At a massive, out of control fire, Amika must defy orders for the sake of the women on her crew.

This episode contains graphic imagery. Sensitive listeners please be advised. 

Thank you, Amika Mota, for sharing your story with us!

Fire Escape, the 6-part series is dropping weekly on the Snap Judgment podcast feed. You can access the bonus episodes here.

Fire Escape is a production of Snap Studios at KQED, made in partnership with Audible (previously Wondery). This series was created, written and produced by Anna Sussman.

Snap Senior story editors: Mark Ristich and Nancy López. Director of Production: Marisa Dodge. Original music by Renzo Gorrio and Doug Stuart. Doug Stuart also created the theme song. Sound design and engineering by Miles Lassi.

Audible senior story editor: Phyllis Fletcher. Development producer: Eliza Mills. Senior Producers: Clare Chambers, Lauren Dee and Mandy Gorenstein. Managing Producer: Sarah Mathis. Executive producers: Glynn Washington, Mark Ristich, Marshall Lewy, Morgan Jones, George Lavender and Jen Sargent.

Special thanks to Adizah Eghan, Kathryn Styer Martínez, Pat Mesiti-Miller, Allison MacAdam, Catherine Winter and the San Francisco Fire Department.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Today of Snap Studios.

0:04.0

Today of Snap Judgment, we're bringing you episode five of our Fire Escape series, since the listeners are advised.

0:28.6

On Christmas Eve, Amika and the incarcerated firefighting crew were called to a house fire, and they found a home fully

0:38.1

engulfed in smoke and made their way inside.

0:42.8

It's like a haze.

0:44.3

We all are fully geared up, which means we've got our SCBAs, so we're breathing through our

0:51.6

masks of air, right?

0:53.2

So everything we see, it's smoky, it's hazy, it's dark.

1:00.4

You know, the sounds are really muffled because we're all up in our gear.

1:06.1

And yeah, visibility is not real good.

1:08.5

And obviously, like, you know, on a house fire, all the electric is out.

1:12.1

So we're pretty much in the dark working with our lights.

1:17.9

There were multiple crews on the scene.

1:20.5

Amica's crew got to work removing the gifts from under the tree to save them from the water and the smoke.

1:26.2

And as they were working, a corrections officer pulled into the driveway.

1:30.4

It was his house.

1:31.8

And he saw a bunch of incarcerated women removing Christmas gifts from his living room.

1:40.7

Like, kind of...

1:43.3

I think he was shocked to see us pulling all of the presence out of the house and

1:47.9

it felt like his first assumption was that we were doing something wrong um and so that you know he

1:55.9

kind of came with that energy like what are you all doing what's going on what's happening like

2:00.8

why are you touching my shit what's going on? What's happening? Like,

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