Hello everyone. Welcome back to the Fire Escape cast. It's episode 40. The 40th episode. Am I being loud?

No, Hansen just immediately started making a weird face. That's our guest, Ben Hansen.

I was saying a face because Mike was so damn loud. Oh, yeah. We've got to bring the energy here. Listen, Hansen, I know you said to me recently that you were intimidated by being on this podcast. Oh, God. Despite being, you've been on thousands upon thousands, hosted many podcasts yourself. Why are you intimidated to be here? Hi, everybody. I'm glad to be here.

I'm very excited to hang out with my dear friend Mary Kish, get to know her over a couple hours.

Here's what's intimidating, because I'm very uptight, Dan. And with podcasting, it's a deep insecurity in me.

And I have to, like, have notes. I have to have a structure to it. Like I think

we keep things loose enough on the Minmac show where you can't feel how much of the rod up my

butt has a rod up its butt. But the idea of like, hey, come on fire escape. We'll just we'll talk about

whatever. Just relax and have fun. That's an intimidating invitation. So you're like a musician

that can only like play off of sheet music and, we're like jazz musicians here. Is that what you were saying? Yeah, it's the fart sound effects you don't play. I was about to make that exact same. I know. That's why this is not going to be a good podcast because we're all going to jump to the exact same joke every time. Minmax is the classical music. You're like Bach.

That's right.

Yeah, it's exactly like that.

But hey, thanks for him on.

Hendricks.

What are we?

Did he jelespie? That's a show, yeah, I know. As soon as I said it. Moving along. Move it along. Let's talk games. Here we go. One simple. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's like a quarter about games.

Yeah.

I hear MinMack show.

Bok listens to it in the car.

Yeah. And, MinMax show.

Bunk listens to it in the car.

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