Fionnuala Ní Aoláin on Counterterrorism and Human Rights
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 8 November 2023
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
Fionnuala Ní Aoláin completed a productive six-year tenure as the UN Special Rapporteur on counterterrorism and human rights last week. Among other issues, she examined how financing counterterrorism and new technologies used for counterterrorism affect human rights. She also analyzed the protection of human rights in several locations with different political contexts, including visits to Guantanamo Bay and detention facilities in northeast Syria.
Lawfare Research Fellow Matt Gluck sat down with Fionnuala to discuss her experience as special rapporteur. They spoke about the downstream harms of counterterrorism financing, her conversations with Guantanamo Bay detainees, why gender should be a meaningful consideration of counterterrorism policy, and much more.
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| 2:00.0 | podcast November 8th, 2023. |
| 2:03.2 | Vignula Neolan completed a productive six-year tenure |
| 2:06.4 | as the UN Special Rapporteur on Counterterrorism |
| 2:09.6 | and Human Rights last week. |
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