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Impolitic with John Heilemann

Fiona Hill

Impolitic with John Heilemann

Audacy | Puck

News, Politics

4.8 • 4.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 October 2021

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

In which John Heilemann talks with Fiona Hill, the former national security official in Donald Trump's White House who made headlines with her testimony in the hearings over the Ukraine scandal that led to his first impeachment. Heilemann and Hill discuss her new memoir, There Is Nothing for You Here: Finding Opportunity in the Twenty-First Century, including her reluctant decision to join the Trump administration, what she learned about his character, and his envious admiration for authoritarian leaders around the world and Vladimir Putin in particular; how Trump’s disregard for the rule of law and democratic norms led not only to his first impeachment but also his attempted coup in the weeks following the 2020 presidential election and culminating with the insurrection at the Capitol on January 6; and why it's no exaggeration to say that Trump is setting the stage for another attempt to subvert American democracy in 2024. Hill also discusses her unlikely journey from a working-class mining town in northeastern England to the rarified academic realm at Harvard, the inner sanctum of the U.S. foreign policy establishment, and upper reaches of political and policy-making power inside the White House. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.0

There have been a lot of books this year dealing with Donald Trump in his final days, months, really a final year in the White House,

1:26.0

and all the chaos, calamity, near cataclysm that resulted.

1:30.0

You got Mike Bender's book, There's Phil Rucker and Carol Lennig, and of course Bob Woodward and Bob Costa, at one word title that says it all.

1:38.0

All these books talking about Trump and the threat to democracy that he posed and still poses, all books he should read, for sure, if you want to understand where we're going,

1:48.0

but none of these books were more telling or more compelling about Trump and the threat that he posed in poses,

1:56.0

than a new tone just came out, an insider account that illuminates an earlier phase in the Trump administration,

2:05.0

a book that deals with Donald Trump as a foreign policy president, Donald Trump's adventures and misadventures on the world stage,

2:13.0

and the Ukraine scandal that led to Trump's first impeachment, was a vivid omen of what we would see just a couple years later when Trump attempted flagrantly to subvert American democracy in the 2020 election,

2:26.0

and in its aftermath leading up to the insurrection on January 6th.

2:29.0

The name of this book is, there is nothing for you here, finding opportunity in the 21st century, and I am pleased to have with us on the show today,

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