Hey, welcome to NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbaugh. My dad and I, we don't have much to talk about.

Maybe you can relate. When I visit, he pesteres me about why I don't have any kids yet. And then we just sort of sit quietly and grasp for any bit of small talk, which means we end up talking politics. And, well,

you know, he's a big Trump guy only watches Fox News, isn't too keen on the liberal mainstream

media, you know the type. As a reporter, I find it helpful to steer clear of those conversations

and more towards bigger picture questions.

Like, what's our country's responsibility to the rest of the world?

What do we get out of our forever wars?

And who does our political system serve?

These are the types of questions Fiona Hill says President Trump and Trumpism were correctly asking.

She's got a new book out called There Is Nothing for You Here.

And as you'll hear in this conversation with NPR's Steve Inskeep,

it's different from other Trump-era memoirs in that it's not as much about Trump as it is about us.

In the U.S., national security news can feel far away from daily life.

Distant wars, murky conflicts, diplomacy behind closed doors.

On our new show, Sources and Methods, NPR reporters on the ground bring you stories of real people

helping you understand why distant events matter here at home.

Listen to sources and methods on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

Fiona Hill had a post at the National Security Council, and in a normal administration,

the public would rarely learn very much about her work, but she became a witness against

Trump at one of his impeachment trials.

In writing her memoir, she tries to take in far more than Trump. She writes of him instead as a

symptom of a divided society. Fiona Hill grew up in the UK and says some people wrote her off

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