Fiona Hill on what Trump’s Caribbean boat strikes signal to Russia and China
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🗓️ 4 December 2025
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| 0:17.5 | WBUR Podcasts, Boston. |
| 0:23.5 | There's just no sign that Vladimir Putin wants to give up anything short of pretty serious demands. |
| 0:29.7 | There's been a lot of discussion about peace talks and deals in Ukraine, but Russia's war there could go on for a very long time to come. |
| 0:39.8 | It's Thursday, December 4th, and this is here and now anytime. From NPR and WBUR Boston, I'm Chris Bentley. |
| 0:59.0 | Today on the show, we're taking a deep dive into the war in Ukraine. |
| 1:03.5 | How even nearly four years after Russia's full-scale invasion, |
| 1:07.9 | the fighting has failed to give either side the decisive victory. And why even though |
| 1:13.4 | President Trump promised to end the war within 24 hours of his return to office, it's proven |
| 1:19.3 | difficult to resolve diplomatically. That's all coming up at about five minutes. But first, |
| 1:26.1 | let's check in on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's rough day in Washington. |
| 1:32.6 | Hegseth is under fire for his campaign of airstrikes against alleged drugboats in the Caribbean, |
| 1:38.1 | which has included at least one double-tap bombing to make sure everyone on board was killed. |
| 1:46.8 | This week, he denied giving the order for that follow-up strike on two shipwrecked survivors, but said he supported the killings |
| 1:52.8 | anyway. Over about three months, the Defense Department says the U.S. carried out at least 21 |
| 1:59.1 | strikes and killed at least 82 people. |
| 2:01.8 | It accused of being drug traffickers, a claim for which it provided no evidence, let alone |
| 2:07.0 | tried to prosecute legally. But you might remember the defense secretary was also at the center |
| 2:12.6 | of a controversy over his use of the messaging app signal to share sensitive information |
| 2:17.4 | ahead of another lethal |
| 2:18.7 | strike, this one back in March. He accidentally shared sensitive information with the editor-in-chief |
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