Hey and welcome back to the A24 podcast, there's nothing we love more than playing matchmaker

with our friends. For today's episode, we introduced after Yang director Kokonata to

Japanese breakfast musician Michele Zonner, whose name you might also recognize from her

best-selling memoir, Crying in Age Mart. They've both been fans of each other's work for

years, and it's still hard for us to believe they've never met before this conversation.

We hope you enjoy that episode. If you haven't seen after Yang, it's available to watch

now on Showtime. Hi, I'm Kokonata. I'm the director of After Yang. Hi, my name is

Michele Zonner. I play in Japanese breakfast, and I'm the author of Crying in Age Mart.

And this is the A24 podcast. It's so funny. I saw not long ago, and it made me really

want to talk to you that it is so silly, but you had written somewhere like a PSA I'm Korean.

You must go through that. I feel the same thing, and there being a moment where you're

like, oh god, everyone thinks I'm Japanese, and feeling like that need to let everyone

know right away. That happened to you from the beginning, right?

I guess so. I think it happens a lot more once I started talking about my rate. But when

I named the band that I had been in a band before, and it was like kind of a side project,

and no one ever talked about my race. And I never really thought that it had anything

to do with what I did creatively. And so I would, you know, named it that just because

I never anticipated it was going to go anyway. It was just like a band camp like Tumblr

project. And I just saw like an animated gif of Japanese breakfast, and it was like,

it was just like a vogue to like a pleasant image, like English breakfast, or like French

laundry. Like it just made me think of like a set meal that's like full of like just,

you know, like soothing foods. And that's why I named it that not thinking that everyone

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