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The Brian Lehrer Show

Finding Your Way with the New Subway Map

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

WNYC transportation reporter Stephen Nessen talks about the new subway map and gets reactions from listeners.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lair Show on WNYC. I'm Bridget Bergen, filling in for Brian today. In our last few minutes, let's talk about a momentous change for subway riders.

0:21.9

No, not new cars or turnstiles.

0:24.6

No fair increases, at least not today.

0:26.9

There's a new map, which might look familiar to those who are longtime riders.

0:31.8

If you have seen the new map, we'd love to hear from you.

0:34.7

We're going to talk about it with my colleague here at the station, your friendly neighborhood

0:39.1

transportation reporter, Stephen Nesson.

0:41.8

Hey, Stephen.

0:42.6

Hello, Bridget.

0:43.9

So the MTA might quibble with my intro there because I referred to it as a map.

0:48.4

They prefer diagram.

0:50.3

What's the distinction there?

0:52.0

Well, I guess I have a copy of it right here, which listeners can hear but can't see.

0:57.9

But I suppose unlike the last map, which most folks are familiar with, which was around for nearly 50 years with like some modifications, of course.

1:06.3

But that one kind of at least looked like the shape of New York City.

1:09.9

You could kind of tell where

1:11.5

things were and it had a bunch of stuff on it that wasn't subway related, like museums and

1:16.3

beaches and parks. And even I was just checking, Rikers Island was on the old map.

1:21.5

Oh, interesting. There's no transit to Rikers Island directly by subway anyways. And so the new

1:27.0

map jettisons all that. And it just focuses

1:29.6

on how to use the subway system. So it's basically a diagram of how to use the subway.

1:35.1

Interesting. So it looks a little bit like the tube maps I've seen from London. I guess the MTA

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