I remember when I first met Russell, it was, I don't know, wow, it might have been like 10 years

ago now. I mean, time just keeps ticking. But anyway, I remember meeting him. Buddy mine's like,

you got to meet this guy. He's like brilliant. He's awesome. And we met each other briefly. And then

we started working on our project together, which maybe we'll

talk about later, maybe we won't.

I don't know, but I think it's kind of serendipitous that, you know, everything I think happens

for a reason, but I think behind every great success, there's always a history, right?

Like success has receipts, and I think that was a receipt or piece of history that was a great learning lesson for

Russell, including myself.

And, you know, Russell is someone that I truly enjoyed working with.

And I love the way his brain works and the way that he just cares about people.

And so it's a privilege and pleasure to be able to have you on, Russell, and just chat

with you about business and click funnels,

which I think you started kind of, you know, our project that, I hate to use the word failure

because my brain, it's hard to say failure, but the project that we learned from was a spring.

Testing our new companies.

There you go.

It's a springboard.

Yes.

To creating click funnels.

And click funnels has grown to incredible heights.

And I've loved just to see your rise to success.

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