Brian Lerer on WNYC.

Now we continue our membership drive mini-series about personal style.

A few minutes at the end of the show on the meaning of the clothing we wear.

Today's guest is Avery

Truffleman, host of Articles of Interest, a podcast that explores the hidden histories and

cultural forces shaping American style. So let's think about how the clothes we wear are already

part of a larger cultural conversation. Hey, Avery, welcome back to WNYC. Thank you so much for

having me, Brian. Always fun to be here. And listeners, any quick stories on this? What place or community

or cultural influence has shaped your personal clothing style? Do you ever think in those terms?

Who can identify any outside influence

like that on what you wear? 212-433 WNYC. Not a whole lot of time for calls in this segment.

So call us up. You'll get right on because we've only got a few minutes left in the show.

But when you look at your closet, what story does it tell about the context of your life? Or if you're a fan of Avery,

you know, you can just ask her a question. 212-433 WNYC. So articles of interest makes the case for people

uninitiated that clothing carries social information,

even when we experience it as personal expression.

You want to give people an example of that?

Maybe that's common today?

Yeah, I mean, clothing is the literal barrier between yourself and society, right?

I mean, if we all, it's, if we all wanted to just blend in, we would all wear a uniform,

and if we all wanted to stand out in whatever ridiculous way we wanted to, we would all

dress in ridiculous ways. We'd all be wearing feather

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