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Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast.

Today's episode will be a slightly longer one, part of the series where I interview fascinating

people about how they take their days from great to awesome and any advice they have for the

rest of us.

So today I am delighted to welcome Tom Rath to Before Breakfast.

Tom is the author of the brand new book, What's the Point?

He is also the author of

How Full Is Your Bucket and several other books. Tom, welcome to the show.

Yeah, I'm excited to have you on. Why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?

I've been kind of researching and studying what leads to great careers in particular and how work intersects with our individual

well-being and health for the last 25 or 30 years and kind of got pulled into the book writing

accidentally, but I've always been a researcher at heart.

And I've spent most of my time just waking up and trying to figure out each morning,

how can I pull together some research, distill some discoveries

that help people to apply things in a real practical way on a day-to-day basis in my books

in writing mostly?

Yeah, which, you know, your new book, What's the Point is all about practical techniques.

But fundamentally, it's about purpose. And I know when a lot of

people hear that, you want to set out that there's a difference between sort of like find your

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