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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Finding Your Purpose Outside of Your Career

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Matt Forte is remembered as one of the Chicago Bears' all-time greats, but now he's tackling something different: helping people find purpose that lasts beyond their career. Esau McCaulley and producer Mike sit down with Forte to talk about his new book Staying in the Game: Making the Most of Every Season. Forte opens up about walking away from the NFL, redefining success, and why our identity can't be built on stats, fame, or jersey numbers.

 

0:00 - Theme Song

 

0:15 - Are Esau and Mike athletes?

 

6:15 - Why'd He Get Into Writing?

 

10:56 - Matt's Spiritual Development

 

18:20 - Sponsor - God's Colorful Kingdom Storybook Bible - Available now, a kid's storybook Bible from Esau McCaulley: https://a.co/d/hVy8aUl

 

19:15 - Resisting Vanity

 

25:17 - Ministering to Athletes

 

37:12 - End Credits

 

Stay in the Game: Making the Most of Every Season by Matt Forte: https://a.co/d/3AYKev7

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, everyone, welcome to the Esau-M-Ka-M-Kali podcast.

0:09.2

I'm your host, Issaa-M-Kali.

0:11.0

We're joined by our producer, Mike.

0:14.3

Hey, Issa.

0:15.0

And we're also joined by author and former NFL and college football star Matt Forte.

0:21.1

Welcome to the podcast, Matt.

0:23.2

Hey, good to be back.

0:24.2

I thought it would be good because some people might not know a lot about your accomplishments.

0:28.5

I thought it would be good to give Mike an opportunity also.

0:31.3

He doesn't often get to talking up in the pod.

0:33.5

So I said it'll be part of your assignment to tell people a little bit about what Matt did,

0:38.4

what Matt did in NFL.

0:39.7

So you have it. I remember that last time.

0:40.3

Yeah.

0:40.4

You didn't let Mike talk too much.

0:41.8

Yeah.

0:42.1

You didn't let Mike talk too much.

0:43.5

No, listen, we've gotten a lot better.

0:45.6

He didn't even introduce you.

0:46.5

He said, Macaulay podcast.

0:48.0

Yeah.

0:48.7

You know, you know, he could have said featuring Mike. Yeah. Thank you. Wow. See, even he realized from the get-go, like, this podcast is missing something.

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