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Everybody talks about, I'm spiraling down, going down, going down.

Because that's what it feels like.

Yeah, it does feel that way.

But if we're spiraling, the truth is we're blessed. Because it's in those difficult times, we're more capable of leaning into God, of him being near to us. None of us learn and grow from our good days. We learn and grow from the hard times. And that's why James says, rejoice when you fall into various trials. Now, I don't ever get into a trial and think, yay, but in those moments we should, because we're about to experience God in a way that we can't in the sunshine. That's Levi Lesko, joining us again today on Focus on the Family with Jim Daly. He'll offer hope for you in the midst of life's struggles. Thanks for being here. I'm John Fuller. You know, John, that's a big promise you just made. He'll offer hope for you in the midst of life struggles. Thanks for being here. I'm John Fuller. You know, John, that's a big promise you just made. He'll offer hope for you in life struggles. And I think last time listening to Levi, it's exactly right. He is so good at kind of reducing life to what's essential, what's core. What are you really here to learn? And if you missed the

program last time, get it at the website, get the app, because it was really insightful and pithy.

I mean, that's it. He just gives it to you so in such bite-sized forms, which I need and I love.

So today I'm looking forward to continuing that conversation. Last time it was about

spiraling down, but really see it as an opportunity to spiral up. And the Lord is with you

wherever you're at, at the bottom, at the top, and the reminder that we learn so much when

we're in the valley. It's hard for us as Christians to embrace that because we want to live at the top.

That's part flesh and part joy.

But God teaches us so much more in the valley.

And if you're going through a valley right now, we're just a phone call or click away.

We've got Karen Christian counselors and resources for you.

The details to get in touch with us are in the show notes.

And Levi Lesko is the co-founder and lead pastor of Fresh Life Church.

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