Getting yourself into the zone is not an accident.

It is actually an intentional process, and one that can be repeated over and over again.

My guest today is the creator of a new app that is designed at its core to help you get your work done without distraction.

This is the 5 a.m. Miracle, episode number 372.

Finding your Flow with Ulf Shwakendik, founder of the Centred app.

Good morning, I am Jeff Sanders, and this is the podcast dedicated to dominating your day

before breakfast.

My guest today is the founder and CEO of Centred, the first FlowState app to bring

modern mindfulness techniques into the workplace and the productivity industry.

Centered reimagined standard task management apps and allows you to create a task playlist

using custom focus music or your own Spotify, as well as a virtual productivity

coach to help you find your flow state where you're focused, aware, and creating your

best work without distraction, basically in the zone. And now here is my interview with

Ulf Schwwikandik.

Oh my God, that was actually perfect.

It's a very rare thing that somebody can pronounce Shweakandik the right way.

Well, I'll keep practicing that for all the episodes in the future.

But this is, I'm glad to talk to you today because you're a guy that I recently met.

And I think that the second that I saw who you are and what you were doing, I was immediately drawn to it because it really speaks to, I think, a lot of the work that I do, the work that I talk about here on the podcast.

And that has to do with being in flow. And so give us kind of your story of when you kind of decided that that was a part of your life or when you discovered it to be helpful. Like, what's your story behind flow?

Yeah. So, so I'm engineered by trade for like a long, long time. I worked at lovely lovely cool startups and big companies. I was like at

Siri, for instance, and then later on at Apple, obviously that story happened. And engineers in

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