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Yes, I think the soil is very rich right now, especially off the heels of me too and everything

that's happening where we can redefine ourselves. We're both men and women and this is not me saying

like this is what a man looks like. It's just saying you decide what it looks like for you. Yeah,

like it doesn't have to be what you've always been told it is. Yes, and I think a lot of us

are tracing blueprints from you know, parents culture, locker rooms, yeah, right, all of that.

The shirt. I mean, we're just talking about you crying and you know, all that.

You have to bring it up again, damn it.

All right, hello, welcome back to should they don't tell you I'm Niki Limo.

Hello, everybody. My name is Stephen Green.

And today we are joined by our amazing guest. I'm so stoked to have you on today. John Kim,

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