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Today you learn about how to find what you love doing and excel at it with author David Epstein.

You'll also learn about why you should always present good news. Excel at it with author David Epstein.

You'll also learn about why you should always present good news

along with bad news.

Let's set us fast some curiosity.

Yesterday, author David Epstein told us about research

into some of the advantages of being a generalist instead of a specialist.

He also wrote a whole book about the topic titled Range, Why Generalists Triumph in a specialized

world. Now that you've heard about the benefits of being a generalist, let's

find out how to become one. Here's the second half of our interview with David Epstein.

So it seems to me like a major takeaway would be if your parents parent maybe let your kid explore lots of

different fields and try that generalization before specializing later.

But if I pick up this book and I read it and I realize yeah I'd like to be a generalist but I'm in my 30s let's say is it too late is there anything I can still do?

I hope not because I have no idea what I'm going to be when I grow up I was I was totally goal-direct as a teenager sure it's going to be a

Air Force Academy be a test pilot and then be an astronaut and of course I did none of

those things and now I have no idea and now I do I actually ended up, and I disclosed this in the book, that I ended up as a subject in a sort of a subject in this research called the Dark Horse Project at Harvard where these researchers were studying people who find work that they find fulfilling and many of them were like very financially successful but that wasn't a requirement and the pattern that showed up was they would come in and I'll say they typically found this later than you would expect and they would come in and say well don't tell people to do what I do because I did this other thing first and then I zigged and I kind of came in the side door so

was totally lucky and so they called it the Dark Horse project because most of

the subjects viewed themselves as a dark horse who comes out of nowhere basically

well and then it turned out that that they all sort of thought that and said,

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