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Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

Finding Treasures in the Dark with Katherine Wolf

Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

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Talk Radio, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Today’s conversation on Back Porch Theology is with my friend Katherine Wolf about God’s compassionate purpose with regards to our pain. Many of you have probably heard or read some of Katherine’s story – she suffered a massive stroke when she was 26 years old, not long after giving birth to her and her husband Jay’s first son, James. Her story is riddled with debilitating physical and emotional suffering – which she endures to this day – and yet she honestly oozes hope. Because she learned to find treasures in the dark by asking the hard and awkward questions pain prompts: Where is God in this? Am I alone? What is the point of all this suffering? Is hope just a cruel, false promise? Katherine dared to wrestle for answers without letting go of God. This is a rich and layered conversation so it’s best to listen slowly and give the tenderest places in your heart time to soak it all in. Thank you for carving out the time to be with us today…we’re really glad you’re here.

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Access more. Today's conversation on Backport's Theology is the theological version of a dark,

0:14.1

molten chocolate cake topped with homemade vanilla ice cream, thick caramel sauce, and a sprig of

0:20.2

fresh mint. Or for you sugar-free folks,

0:23.4

well, frankly, I can't think of an accurate substitute for that glorious dessert. The bottom

0:28.6

line of this episode is, this is a rich one, y'all. So it's not one I'd recommend listening to

0:34.4

in a hurry or when you're at the risk of being distracted. We also want you to

0:39.1

know that we delved into some sensitive subject matter in this one, so be aware while you're listening.

0:45.1

Probably not good to have littles listening to this one with you. You're going to need time

0:49.9

to really sit and savor this one because we're talking with my friend Catherine Wolfe about

0:54.9

God's compassionate purpose with regards to our pain. Many of you have probably heard or read

1:01.0

some of Catherine's story. She suffered a massive stroke when she was 26 years old, not long

1:06.0

after giving birth to her and her husband Jay's first son, James. And while she defied the odds by not dying after this massive stroke, it still took years

1:16.9

of excruciating rehab for Catherine to learn to swallow again, to talk again, and to regain

1:22.7

partial use of her broken body.

1:25.4

Her story is riddled with debilitating physical and emotional suffering,

1:30.1

which she endures to this day, and yet Catherine honestly oozes hope, because she learned to

1:37.3

find treasures in the dark by asking the hard and awkward questions that pain prompts.

1:43.4

Where is God in this? Am I alone? What is the point of all

1:47.8

this suffering? Is hope just a cruel, false promise? Catherine dared to wrestle for answers without

1:55.2

letting go of God. And the radiant result is that she found unexpected grace and grit amidst, not apart from,

2:03.1

the heartbreak of unfulfilled dreams and plans. She found real peace at the complex intersection

2:10.3

of pain and purpose. And she found fresh intimacy with Jesus, who brings dead or nearly dead things back to life. No matter how new

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