Where do we get our gladness? Susan Hunt says it has to come from outside ourselves.

The grace of gratitude is so important to our spiritual growth, and it's not something we can just manufacture.

It's something we pray for. It's a grace that we ask God to work in us. And he makes us plan.

This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast for March 25, 2021. I'm Nancy DeMoss, welcome.

Well, if you miss Dana Gresh's conversation yesterday with Susan Hunt and Sharon

Betters, what a treasure trove.

You want to be sure and catch that episode on the Reviver Hearts app or at ReviverHarts.com.

These three special women are back today to talk about

aging with grace and the value of having a biblical approach to aging. And don't we all need that?

Now contrasted with our culture, the biblical view will seem countercultural. And it's not going to

be highly applauded by most. In fact,

as you live that way, it can make you feel different, maybe even left out. Well, Susan and Sharon are

here again today to encourage us in our journey as we become older women. Let's listen as

Dana Gresh starts off their conversation. Welcome back, Susan.

Thank you, Dana. And I'm so glad to have you again, my new friend, Sharon. Likewise,

Dana. Thank you. Thank you for your wise wisdom yesterday. It was such a treat. I'm wondering,

we haven't discussed your ages yet. I'm feeling like maybe we'll save that for tomorrow when we are all really good friends. But what prepared you maybe in your younger years to have this countercultural dynamic and life-giving approach to aging? Sharon? Well, when I was in my 40s,

Susan mentioned yesterday that I came on to the National Women's Ministry of the Presbyterian Church

in America, and I was so fortunate to be surrounded by women, you know, the kind of women I wanted to be like when I

grew up and God had placed me there for reasons that I truly did not understand until July of

1993 when our 16-year-old son Mark and his friend Kelly were in a fatal car accident. And I felt as though I wasn't prepared for

that. The months and years, God, I feel, gave me the gift of wrestling. And I know that that

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