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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Finding the Line Between Savoring and Saving (Jamie Wheal)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Lemonada Media

Self-improvement, Education

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2021

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Jamie Wheal is the founder of the Flow Genome Project, a organization dedicated to the research and training of human performance, and most notably, he’s the author of Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death in a World That’s Lost its Mind. In his fascinating book, Wheal explores the perplexing intersection at which we find ourselves, each of us torn between the desire to save the world or to savor the world. “We as a generational cohort are coming of age where we simultaneously have more awareness of life...and at the same time understand our existential precariousness,” he says, “How on earth do we hold all this at the same time?” Our wide ranging discussion takes on the heady topics of healing, believing, and belonging  and ends with Wheal sharing with us his ‘ten suggestions', a list of countermeasures to the fundamentalism, nihilism, and despair that threaten to swallow us whole.  Episode Highlights To save the world or to savor the world…3:09 Nihilism, suspicion and our meaning crisis…6:48 Reclaiming our authority, healthy tribalism, and the ten suggestions…30:40 More from Jamie Wheal Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death in a World That's Lost Its Mind Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work Jamie's Flow Genome Project - The Official Source for Peak Performance and Culture Follow Jamie on Instagram Dig Deeper The Dark Triad traits predict authoritarian political correctness and alt-right attitudes - Moss, O'Connor - Queensland University of Technology Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi friends. Throughout this holiday season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep

0:06.6

publishing new episodes every week and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need to escape

0:14.2

from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

0:19.8

we'll be here as we always are.

0:26.8

Hi, it's Elise Loonen, host of pulling the thread.

0:34.4

I'm an author, a podcast host, and parent who built a long career in media. I grew up

0:39.4

in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions. In this

0:45.8

show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare moment that we

0:51.3

find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences

0:55.0

within a larger social and spiritual construct.

0:59.0

Our guest today is Jamie Wheel, founder of the Flow Genome Project, an organization dedicated

1:05.0

to the research and training of human performance, and most notably the author of Recapture the Rapture, Rethers,

1:11.6

Rethinking God, Sex, and Death, in a world that's lost its mind.

1:15.6

In his fascinating book, Weill explores the perplexing intersection at which we find ourselves,

1:20.6

each of us torn between the desire to save the world or to savor the world.

1:25.6

We as a generation, as a generational cohort, of, say, baby boomers, Gen Xers, millennials, at a

1:32.7

bare minimum, coming of age at a time where we simultaneously have more awareness of just

1:41.3

life, the universe and everything, and at the same time, also understand our

1:46.2

existential precariousness, he says, kind of summing up of how on earth do we all hold,

1:52.5

hold all this at the same time.

1:55.1

Our wide-ranging discussion takes on the heady topics of healing, believing, and belonging,

1:59.8

and ends with the wheel sharing

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