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today. That's what we're talking about because we all need people that are

gonna go up the hill with us. We weren't created to do life alone and and if

that was missing that could be a really key reason why we're feeling stuck.

That's Carrie Trent Stageberg talking about how to move into a place of

connection and caring and calm with the support of others. Welcome to focus on

the family. Your host is focus president and author Jim Daley and I'm John Fuller.

Today we're gonna be talking with Carrie and her dad, well-known author and

speaker Dr. John Trent about a concept called life mapping which is a big

picture perspective that we all need in life. That's good and I'm looking forward to

it. You know I think it's been 40 years since Dr. Trent first did the the

life map and there's been a lot of people that have been helped by this. I'm

thinking of the pandemic all of its aftermath. People I think we use the

term being derailed. You know you just you just fall out of where you were

headed. I saw it with the high school kids that my boys are running with. I

mean many of them didn't go to college. They had planned to go to college but

of course everything was shut down for a while and they didn't go to the

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