Everybody, welcome to show this is Dernolene, this is the Dernolene show.

What's going on?

How you doing?

What's happening?

Creating your life.

Are you spending time every day getting clear on who you are, what you are, where you're

going, and what you want in the world?

Well, this episode, we're going to expand the molecules of silence.

My next guest, Lee Mars, and Justin Zorn, are incredible people.

You will know in my voice how amazing this conversation was, but let me just say a little

bit about these two Justin and Lee are founders of Astrea strategies and consultancy that bridges

contemplation and action, helping leaders and teams envision and communicate solutions

to, of course, complex challenges we all face.

And they are the authors of this wildly cool, amazing book called Golden, the power of silence

in a world of noise.

You all know that our world is noisy and it's noisier and noisier.

So what can we do to expand silence and calm the noise?

That's what we talked about.

We dove into that.

Justin is Harvard and Oxford trained specialist in economics and psychology of human thriving.

How cool is that?

He has written for many publications, including the Washington Post, the Atlantic, Harvard

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