I think pretty much everybody longs for peace and for joy, but we know as

believers that peace and joy have little to do with our circumstances. Many times it really has to do with what we're focusing on and

if you're struggling to experience peace or joy, this episode should encourage you.

I'm John Fuller along with Dr. Danny Werta who heads up the

focus on the family parenting department and we're going to hear now from Ashley

Willis. She's a mom of four and she's written a great book called Peace Pirates, Conquering the Beliefs and Behaviors that

steal your treasure in motherhood.

Quite the title and Ashley is quite the guest.

Here she is now with Focus President Jim Daly.

Ashley, welcome back to Focus.

Thank you. I just love being here with you guys.

Now did you realize this was going to be an intervention for John and his pirate his

his pirates off the ship it's all good now that was

I'm still impressed I know I was impressed too

actually let's get into it your mother of four boys ages 7 to 17.

Yes.

Moms listening just went, wow, you're like esteemed among all women.

Four boys of those ages. We have two and but I mean it is busy and I'm sure

households with girls are busy too don't let me fool anyone. In that regard

with that busyness how do you continue to love your In that you

regard with that busyness how do you continue to love your children in that way that you want to that you know they need to be loved?

Yes. With all that going on. I mean with the runny noses with the messes with the cleanup with the loads of laundry everything that's going on no matter how you and Dave divide those responsibilities

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