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The Mama's Den

Finding Our Corners of Joy

The Mama's Den

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5630 Ratings

🗓️ 12 June 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Ajike “AJ” Owens was a mother of four who was fatally shot after she reportedly knocked on the door of her white neighbor's residence to retrieve her child’s iPad, and the story has been weighing heavy on the ladies. What do you do when it feels like it's non-stop? What can we do as Black mothers to negate the feeling of hopelessness? Can we do anything? As the ladies discuss, sometimes the most revolutionary acts are finding the moments of joy in their corners of the world.

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0:00.0

Yes, I called Cody yesterday and I cried because I was just depressed about, because we were talking about something else.

0:17.2

And then she was reading something while we were talking on the phone about somebody being killed. Yeah, I happened to. And so I caught her back like, was this what you were

0:24.2

reading? And she was like, no, I didn't even hear about that. And then it just made me sad because I feel like,

0:28.5

well, two things. I can't really confide in chia the way I want to.

0:37.9

And it's only just because it's kind of like, you know, when you have,

0:42.5

want to talk about your period, you want to talk to other girls about your period,

0:45.0

because they have periods, you know what I mean?

0:46.5

And so for me, it's not that Chia doesn't have empathy,

0:50.6

but he just doesn't get it.

0:53.1

And he's like adjacent to it.

0:55.5

And I told her I liken it to like, when you hear about something happening in another country, right?

1:01.0

It's sad.

1:01.8

Like there's wars.

1:02.9

There's children starving in Africa right now in other countries and Indian other places.

1:07.9

There's poverty on a whole other level that a lot of us haven't even

1:11.5

experienced, right? But it's so sad. We're like, oh, that's sad. And then we might donate money

1:16.8

and go on about our lives. But it doesn't impact us in a way where it's heavy on our hearts

1:21.3

every day and it's really impacting like how we move in this country. I feel like that's how it is with Chia. Like it's sad,

1:27.7

but it doesn't impact how he moves. It's not heavy on his heart every single day. Like he can

1:32.2

go to a march or he can, you know, show up for something, a rally, whatever. But the way he wakes up

1:40.9

and exists in this world, like he doesn't have the same fears that I have when he gets

1:44.8

pulled over by the police. He's just like, I've seen him be pulled over by the police so many times

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