when you throw yourself with all precautions and care into the darkness,

I mean,

that is the hotbed of evangelization.

I mean,

you know,

and Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, every me shall bow, your weekly Catholic podcast on evangelization.

I'm Mike Gomergormigormley, and I'm joined as always by my illustrious co-host, Dave,

the unquestionably non-schismatic Van Bickle. How you doing, Dave? I wouldn't say unquestionably.

I'm starting in my own church in my backyard right now, basically. Yeah. Yeah. It's literally just

exorcisms all day long. No. No. When I read the McCarrick report, I remember I texted my priest friend and just said, so I'm

joining Orthodoxy now because I'm happy with the McCarrick report.

So now anytime he says that like something about the church, I'm saying, see, if you had

a metropolitan, that wouldn't be a problem.

Trust me.

Like if you were like me and joined Orthodox. Yeah, you know, that's famous.

Rod Dreher went from evangelicalism to Catholicism. And then after the sex abuse scandal

happened, he left for orthodoxy. And it's really funny because when you read, not funny, but when

you read his stuff, he, you know, a lot of Catholics call them out on doing that.

And then he, so he publishes very often the abuse is going on in Orthodoxy land.

Yeah.

And it is like, it is terrifying because a lot of Orthodox countries, the religion and government are so united that

it gets crazy and abuse and all that stuff gets covered up by the state officials as well as

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