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This is Love

Finding Joy

This is Love

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

4.79.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 December 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In 2015, Kate Bowler was diagnosed with stage IV cancer. She was 35. “The chronic nature of what I had really lent itself to people wanting to openly explain why I was suffering. Was it something I ate? Was it something I did spiritually? Like, who’s at fault here? You know, maybe everything doesn’t happen for a reason.” Today, she says, “One of the only things that really cuts through all the noise is surprising and ridiculous joy.” She’s the author of Everything Happens For A Reason: And Other Lies I’ve Loved and No Cure for Being Human (And Other Truths I Need to Hear). Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2BmMZr5 We also make Criminal and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop.  Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this show comes from Krakan.

0:03.0

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0:07.0

It doesn't care where you come from, what you look like, your credit score,

0:11.0

or your outrageous food delivery habits.

0:13.7

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0:18.4

Krakhan, see what crypto can be.

0:21.3

Don't invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest.

0:25.0

This is a high-risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong.

0:31.2

I got a phone call,

0:33.0

I was just at my desk on the dignity of a desk

0:38.0

treadmill that I was very excited about trying out

0:40.0

and looking at my latest research on televangelists and I got this phone call from a very

0:47.6

board physician's assistant who said that I had stage four cancer and that I would have to come to the hospital right away.

0:58.0

Duke University Religion professor Kate Bowler was 35 and living with her

1:07.6

husband and two-year-old son in Durham, North Carolina, when she started

1:11.6

feeling pain in her stomach. when she was eventually sent in for a CT scan and got the results by phone the next day.

1:19.0

And it felt like it sounded like I was underwater,

1:25.0

like I could tell that she was talking,

1:27.0

but your brain just kind of becomes this sort of quiet,

1:32.0

sort of screaming in the background and at some point she stopped talking and all I could think of to say was

1:40.0

but I have a son as if like as if my best argument my biggest love would

1:50.3

would be enough to like create a wall between the you know the

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