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Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Finding Grace in a Burger Bun: An Incrediburgible Quest

Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford

Pushkin Industries

History, Society & Culture

4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Dick and Mac are content with their lives: they enjoy making burgers by day and stargazing by night. Ray Kroc is a workaholic chasing success at any cost. When the brothers' relaxed approach to business collides with Kroc's ruthless ambition it will birth one of the world's best-known brands. This is the story of two very different approaches to making hamburgers - and two very different approaches to making money.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.3

Guaranteed human.

0:07.5

Pushkin.

0:30.3

With jerky movements, a golden droid walks up to the counter of a burger restaurant.

0:34.2

He turns to his companion who's lagging behind.

0:38.1

R2D2, hurry up, says C3PO.

0:44.2

At the counter, C3PO asks for a Star Wars poster.

0:53.0

The smiling young server explains that if he buys a large Coca-Cola for 49 cents, the poster's free.

1:03.0

The year is 1977, and Star Wars is a sensation in the nation's cinemas.

1:11.3

Nowadays we expect any major movie to have a tie-in with a fast food chain.

1:15.9

But in 1977, that idea was very new.

1:20.3

The burger restaurant? Go on. Have a guess.

1:23.8

I'm going to guess that your guess was McDonald's.

1:32.2

But no, the advert was for burger chef. You've never heard of Burger Chef? For a while,

1:38.8

it was almost as big as McDonald's, and in many ways more innovative. Burger Chef had the Big Chef before McDonald's had the Big Mac. Burger Chef had the fun meal

1:44.2

before McDonald's had the happy meal.

1:46.8

When McDonald's introduced the happy meal,

1:49.4

Burger Chef sued, saying they'd ripped off the idea.

1:53.3

Where McDonald's had its clown, Ronald,

1:56.4

Burger Chef had a jocular cartoon chef

1:59.2

with a chirpy teenage sidekick. The Fun Burger! With a jocular cartoon chef with a chirpy teenage sidekick.

2:02.7

The Fun Burger!

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