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The spiritual deserts that we find ourselves in actually God invites us there sometimes

because those are the places where we can find freedom.

Those are the places where we can find him in ways that we wouldn't or in ways that we

don't when things come easy to us.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast.

This week we are delighted to have Sarah Kroger, a talented singer-songwriter and worship leader from Nashville, Tennessee.

Sarah shares the early days of her creative exploration

while facing bullying and how, when she attended a transformative

youth conference, she realized that faith could be something that was alive in your life, not just

a box to be checked off on Sundays.

Later in the episode, we'll hear from Claire McCallin, an accomplished author and creative director of St. Joseph's home for artisans in Boston.

Claire shares her experience of taking a leap of faith, banding together with the local

artist community and restoring an old convent to become a vibrant place that

nurtures and cultivates young artists. Let's begin with Sarah's story.

My name is Sarah Kroger. I am a singer-songwriter, worship leader from Nashville, Tennessee,

originally from Florida, and I lead worship and write songs around the themes of Jesus and the gospel stories and just faith and life honestly and we travel the world getting to lead people and song to Jesus.

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