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The Russell Moore Show

Finding God in Life's Crucible Moments

The Russell Moore Show

Christianity Today, Russell Moore

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 914 Ratings

🗓️ 26 February 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

In times of profound crisis, where do we turn? How do spiritual practices and Christian wisdom help us navigate life’s most challenging seasons? In this episode, Russell Moore sits down with Westmont College president Gayle Beebe to explore themes from his book The Crucibles That Shape Us. Together, they unpack how moments of intense pressure and uncertainty—whether personal, professional, or spiritual—can become transformative experiences that deepen our faith and character. Drawing from decades of pastoral and educational leadership, Beebe shares insights about facing crossroads with wisdom, courage, and resilience. Moore and Beebe discuss practical ways to maintain spiritual equilibrium during upheaval, the role of community in crisis, and ways to discern God’s presence in our darkest hours. This conversation offers hope and guidance for listeners wrestling with their own crucible moments, and it also explores how Christian formation happens not despite our trials but often through them. Resources mentioned in this episode or recommended by the guest include: The Crucibles That Shape Us: Navigating the Defining Challenges of Leadership by Gayle Beebe  Traces of God by Diogenes Allen Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman A Failure of Nerve: Leadership in the Age of the Quick Fix by Edwin H. Friedman “Four Quartets 1: Burnt Norton” by T. S. Eliot East of Eden by John Steinbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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If David would have had options, I mean, even the Psalms, some of them are him basically saying,

1:41.0

would you please release me from this assignment? And I think we've all had

1:45.3

assignments where we wish God would just release us. But if we persevered, we actually got to a place

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that we never thought was possible. Hello, this is Russell Moore, and you're listening to The Russellmore Show, brought to you by Christianity today.

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Every week, we explore here conversations and questions from a Christian perspective to help you sort out how to live as a follower of Jesus

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in confusing times. This week, we have a conversation to seek to do just that.

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One of the things that I have noticed that has proven true over and over and over again is if I'm talking to someone, and I just bring up, tell me about the most important times in your life, the times when it seems that God was really at work in your life in ways that yielded fruit for years to come. I haven't found anybody yet who talks about a

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calm, peaceful, pleasant sort of time in their lives. They always talk about a situation that a lot of people put

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