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The Dad Edge Podcast

Finding God, Grit, and Purpose in the Desert featuring Terrence Ogden

The Dad Edge Podcast

Larry Hagner

Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

4.8 β€’ 1.6K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 16 March 2026

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I sit down with Terrence Ogden, founder of Official Project Grit β€” a man who transformed a life of addiction, jail time, and rock bottom into one of the most inspiring stories of resilience, grit, and faith you'll ever hear.

We start with the Immortal 32 Ruck β€” a 75-mile road march from Gonzales, Texas to the Alamo, now in its seventh year, inspired by the 32 men who answered the call at the Alamo knowing it was a one-way ticket. But what makes Terrence's story so gripping is where he came from. Years as a severe heroin addict, cycling in and out of jail, until a mentor named Kenny Baker reached out a hand and changed everything. That spirit of one man helping another became the DNA of Project Grit.

We also get into Terrence's most extraordinary feat: a solo, self-supported 1,046-mile ruck across the entire state of Texas β€” 40 days, no crew, with food caches buried in the desert weeks in advance. He shares what it taught him about faith, discipline, and a peace found not in the absence of chaos, but in the presence of God within it.

We close with a powerful call to any man carrying something heavy in silence. Terrence's message is simple: we are tribal by nature, and you will never find your true purpose until you're willing to ask another man for help.


Timeline Summary

[0:00] Introduction to the Dad Edge mission and the movement to raise leaders of families and communities

[1:01] Introducing Terrence Ogden β€” founder of Official Project Grit and one of the toughest non-veterans you'll ever meet

[1:46] The Immortal 32 Ruck: a 75-mile road march from Gonzales to the Alamo held every year around Texas Independence Day

[4:18] Terrence recaps the seventh annual event β€” 51 starters, 35 finishers, record-breaking heat in Texas

[7:32] How Official Project Grit was born β€” and why it starts with Terrence's story of addiction and redemption

[8:19] The mentor who changed everything: Kenny Baker, the man who pulled Terrence out of the gutter

[10:32] The Soul Crusher: the defining moment at mile 40 that gave birth to Project Grit's true mission

[13:25] Ad break β€” Roommates to Soulmates Cohort preview call

[15:11] Rucking as an equalizer: how a knee injury transitioned Terrence from ultramarathons to rucking

[20:28] The power of reaching out β€” Larry's personal story of texting a friend in a dark moment

[23:06] Six years sober and on the edge: Terrence's most gripping near-relapse story and the friend who saved him

[28:15] The battle cry β€” a message for any man who is lone-wolfing it right now

[30:04] Discipline before confidence: Terrence's leadership philosophy and how he's raising his kids

[32:49] The 1,046-mile Texas ruck: 40 days, solo, self-supported, food caches buried in the desert

[39:10] Finding peace in the desert β€” and why peace isn't the absence of chaos but the presence of God

[41:54] The spiritual parallels to 40 days in the desert β€” temptation, faith, and miraculous provision

[48:07] What's next: the Gritty 50 event, a book, and an upcoming documentary

[50:37] Final words for the man in the dark β€” why reaching out to a brother changes everything


Five Key Takeaways

  1. You don't have to be born tough β€” grit is built through facing adversity head on, one hard decision at a time.
  2. Every man needs a "running buddy" β€” someone who will call you out, show up for you, and help you make the right decision when your own mind is working against you.
  3. Discipline comes before confidence. Motivation fades, but discipline gives you the structure and confidence to overcome whatever comes your way.
  4. We are tribal by nature. Lone-wolfing it is a trap β€” strength, purpose, and redemption are almost always found by letting another man in.
  5. Peace is not found in the absence of chaos β€” it's found in the presence of God within the chaos.

Links & Resources


Closing

If there's one message from this episode that stands out, it's this: no man was meant to carry his heaviest load alone.

Terrence Ogden went from a heroin addict cycling in and out of jail to rucking 1,046 miles solo across the state of Texas β€” not because he was born tough, but because one man reached out a hand when he was at rock bottom. And Terrence paid that forward.

Whether you're in a season of darkness right now, or you know someone who is β€” this episode is a reminder that the bravest thing a man can do is pick up the phone and say, "I need help."

If this conversation moved you, share it with a man in your life who needs to hear it.

Go out and live legendary.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. The Dad Edge movement creates leaders of men, leaders of families, and leaders of communities. We will not only impact this generation of fathers, but the next generation as well. The kids we are raising will have better chances and odds stacked in their favor because of the amazing example

0:21.2

that their fathers emulated for them. We are here to change the world. We are here to change

0:27.6

relationships. We are here to positively disrupt this generation of fathers so no man goes to their

0:33.6

grave with regret. We disrupt the drift of busyness and replace it with razor-focused intention,

0:40.3

passion, purpose, and direction.

0:43.7

We are the Dad Edge,

0:45.7

and we're here to change the game.

0:47.8

We're here to change the game.

1:10.9

I don't know. What's up, gentlemen? Hey, what's going on? Welcome to the Dad Edge podcast. I'm Larry Hagner, your host and founder of this podcast, this show, and movement. Hope you guys doing well and having an incredible week. Hey, question for you. Do you enjoy doing hard, uncomfortable things? My guest today, and if the

1:18.1

answer is yes, you're going to love hearing from him today. If the answer is, no, I don't like that.

1:21.7

I think you'll still be fascinated by today's story and today's guest. Today I'm interviewing

1:26.7

a man by the name of Terrence Ogden,

1:29.1

and he is the founder of the official project grit. And I will tell you, man, this dude is as

1:36.2

tough as nails, and he is not even a veteran or a Navy SEAL or special forces or anything,

1:41.7

but man, some of the things that this guy has done, he might as well, might as well be.

1:45.7

Have you ever thought about rucking 1,046 miles across the state of Texas and surviving that the entire time?

1:56.2

And not only that, but planning it so to where you bury your food and water in the desert in certain places

2:03.4

just so you can survive. If the answer is no and you're a normal person, well, welcome to the

2:09.4

party because you're about ready to meet this person who did do this. And not only this,

2:13.6

but he also, as I interviewed him today, he, uh, he just got done rucking 75 miles over,

2:21.5

over, uh, 36 hours. Like literally just did that the weekend right before this podcast

2:28.3

recorded. So it's just absolutely unbelievable. But this man, Terrence, he did not come from. He was not born a gritty,

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