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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Finding Freedom with Mel Robbins and Two Little Words: Let Them

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Buckle up, listeners. It was only a matter of time before our paths crossed with Mel Robbins, one of the most respected experts on change and motivation in the zeitgeist, and today is that day. Known for being the host of the #1 ranking education podcast in the world, bringing deeply relatable topics, tactical advice, tools, and compelling conversations to her audiences, Jen and Amy spend today’s hour diving into Mel’s “Let Them” theory, which is taking the world by storm, already delivering instant peace and freedom in the lives and relationships of people putting it into practice. Together, they discuss: The difference between “Let Them” and “Let Me” Learning to release the white-knuckle grip we hold over other people’s behavior (and other things beyond our control) Reframing disappointment to view it as a gift (yes, it’s possible!) Repositioning self-worth inward, rather than leaving it dependent on others' opinions. *** Thought-provoking Quotes: “For a lot of women, we spend so much time upstairs in our heads as people-pleasers and over-analyzers, over-thinking and ruminating, trying to get things perfect. That’s the last place I should be, personally. I need to drop into my body and get out of my head.” – Mel Robbins “People reveal who they are and what they care about through their behavior. Ignore their words. Watch their behavior. Let people be who they are. Let them do what they’re going to do. Focusing on them is not where your power is.” – Mel Robbins “The difference between ‘not my business’ and ‘let them’ is worlds apart. When you say, ‘not my business’, you’re scolding yourself. With, ‘let them’, you’re in the power position because you see what’s happening and are choosing to allow it without allowing it. You’re rising above it.” – Mel Robbins “There’s something about learning that [people] aren’t ever going to change but that doesn’t mean your relationship can’t change for the better. When you let them be who they are, you create space for acceptance, the whole energy shifts.” – Mel Robbins Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Demotivators - https://despair.com/collections/ Effin Birds on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/effinbirds/ Van Morrison - https://www.vanmorrison.com/ No Hard Feelings by the Avett Brothers - https://open.spotify.com/track/0bgQ1hQrpP6ScdBZlDfLE2 Foo Fighters - https://foofighters.com/ DePeche Mode - https://www.depechemode.com/ The Cure - https://www.thecure.com/ Taylor Swift - https://www.taylorswift.com/ The 5 Second Rule: Transform Your Life, Work, and Confidence with Everyday Courage by Mel Robbins - https://amzn.to/427OHwu The Let Them Theory: A Life-Changing Tool That Millions of People Can't Stop Talking About by Mel Robbins - https://amzn.to/4hc53bE The Mel Robbins Podcast - https://www.melrobbins.com/podcast The Four Questions: For Henny Penny and Anybody with Stressful Thoughts by Byron Katie - https://amzn.to/3C7tKXT My Legacy Podcast - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-my-legacy-podcast-255793246/ Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl - https://amzn.to/4ajbyaz Dr. Stuart Ablon - https://www.stuartablon.com/ The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck: A Counterintuitive Approach to Living a Good Life by Mark Manson - https://amzn.to/3PCqxmi Guest’s Links: Mel’s website - https://www.melrobbins.com/ Mel’s podcast - https://www.melrobbins.com/podcast Mel’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/melrobbins/ Mel’s Twitter - https://x.com/melrobbins Mel’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/melrobbins Mel’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/melrobbins Mel’s TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@melrobbins Connect with Jen! Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/ Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/ Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker The For the Love Podcast is presented by Audacy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

So meditation is something I added into my personal wellness toolkit a little over four years ago.

0:06.6

It's something I absolutely came to love. But for those who just can't hop on board the meditating

0:12.9

train right now, I want to share something called activations. I actually love complimenting, if you will, like my meditation practice with activations.

0:24.6

They're a little bit more energizing, like goal-oriented, like visualization-focused, which I love too.

0:32.7

They're designed for you to listen with your eyes open, like in everyday moments while you're just doing whatever.

0:38.0

And there's sort of a mix between a motivational podcast, cinematic, music, and guided visualizations.

0:47.7

The Activations app has incredible options. I've been integrating into my daily routine,

0:52.4

just as I go. And it's been pretty transformative.

0:55.8

Like I listen while I'm getting ready in the morning or winding down at night or like running an

1:02.0

errand. I'm in the car. It's a super easy but also effective way to get motivated and kind of

1:09.2

dial into your future self, if you will. So in the app, there are more

1:12.9

than 700 activations to choose from. I love personally that the music is so moving and the words are

1:19.6

empowering and it's all backed by science and self-image psychology. It's all fascinating. These activations

1:26.2

actually engage your reticular activating system

1:29.6

and help align your thoughts and actions with your goals. So give activations a try. You can get a

1:38.8

14-day free trial and they offer a money-back guarantee so you can try it out risk free and see if it's

1:44.3

right for you. With my link, you can also get a pretty massive discount of over 60% off your yearly

1:51.6

membership. So this offer is only available for a limited time. So head to activations.com

1:58.0

slash gin. And you could take advantage of this sale.

2:02.3

The deal is only available through this URL, not the app store.

2:06.6

So head over to activations.com slash gen and start your free trial.

2:11.8

It's the perfect way to step into the new year.

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