Hey everybody Kevin Rose here, I'm here.

Kevin Rose here, excited for you to get into this episode.

I learned a lot from our guest, Soren Gordhammer today,

and I think there's definitely a bunch of takeaways here,

so get out your pen and paper and get ready to take some good notes because

Soren has some great tips for us on how we can live a little bit more of a balanced life that

provides a little bit more space.

By space, I mean, we tend to be, and when I say we,

I mean just technologists and people into tech

tend to be caught up in this always on lifestyle and that can be you know carrying your phone

around with you everywhere head down in Instagram and Snapchat or looking at push

notifications or looking at your Apple watch and it's a slippery slope.

I myself have been caught up in tech to a point where I would consider it to be unhealthy.

One of the things I like about this this

podcast is that it feels pretty private and kind of intimate at least for me

sitting here in my house recording this stuff so I feel like I can tell you guys

pretty much anything.

So you know for me I think that the thing that was that hit me the hardest was probably when my father

passed away and when my father passed away and when my father passed away unexpectedly from a heart attack

I

started really thinking about all the times that I said no to him meaning no to him in the sense that he would invite me out to go out and do some fishing trips and things of that nature.

And I would say no to him because I was so caught up in my career and in technology that I

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