Today's guest is the Colombian mathematician Tatiana Toro. Professor Toro is based at the University of Washington,

but also recently took on the role of director at the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute in Berkeley, California.

In fact, it's all changed because MSRI has been renamed the Simons-Laufer Mathematical Sciences

Institute, or SL Math for short. So there's a new name to remember. Now, a lot of number file

videos are filmed at the Institute with visiting

mathematicians. So, of course, I'm really curious to hear about Professor Toro's plans there.

But also, I wanted to hear more about her personal journey. And that's where our episode

starts today. I was born in Bogota, Colombia, and that's 2,600 meters above sea level.

High above sea level?

2,640.

2,640 meters above sea level.

Does that make life different in any way?

Or because you're used to it, it's normal?

Because you're used to it is normal, but for example, your lungs are bigger when you grow up

at such altitude.

So now that you're closer to sea level here, does that mean you're like superhuman and

you're fitter than most?

No, I've gotten older and I've lived too long at sea level.

But before initially, yes, it made a difference.

Okay.

What was your childhood like?

What were you like as a little girl?

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