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Okay, I want to continue the conversation about training, firearms training, and also about self-defense training.

And how many times have you heard us talk about it here?

Most people don't know what they don't know.

They don't know that they're actually not competent to handle a firearm for self-defense.

They think they are.

Been handling my guns all my life.

Been around guns all my life.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we heard it all before.

Ryan was able to grab Ernest Langdon,

who is a top trainer, also does a lot of cool stuff

with guns and gun parts.

And it was a really interesting conversation. This is again part of the

Gun Talk Nation podcast and it's bigger than this and I've just carved out a

little piece of it you're gonna want to go check out the whole thing.

But I just wanted to grab some of this because he's been able to get some really good people to interview and Ernest his take on training, I thought was really interesting, especially when he was talking about getting started with your training.

And it's, I think you're going to be surprised at what he

recommends in terms of where to go for your initial training. So here's Ryan

Gresham talking with Ernest Langdon from Langdon Tactical.

Today on the show, we are very privileged to have a very accomplished shooter,

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