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Michelle Obama: The Light Podcast

Find Meaningful Connection with Logan Ury

Michelle Obama: The Light Podcast

Higher Ground

Relationships, Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement

4.49.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Dating coach and behavioral expert Logan Ury joins the podcast to discuss all things dating and love. She shares her go-to strategies for a first date, why you shouldn’t care so much about whether there’s a “spark,” and how to find an authentic connection in a dating world mediated by technology and phones. Plus, Michelle shares how she and Barack first fell in love.

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0:00.0

Over the summer, we were becoming friends, friends, really good friends.

0:05.1

Like, Barack was like my buddy, right?

0:08.1

And we were going everywhere, and we were, you know, going to lunch,

0:11.6

and we were laughing about the same things and making jokes,

0:14.6

and we'd have to go to, like, see, you know, Les Miserables.

0:18.8

And I remember I really liked him because we went to Le Miz as a summer associate outing,

0:25.0

and we both looked at each other and was like, this sucks.

0:31.8

And he looked at me in intermission, and he said, let's go.

0:35.9

And I was like, we can't go. We're here with the firm. And he was like,

0:39.9

we don't have to stay through this. Let's just go. And I was like, ooh, he's radical. He's like,

0:45.1

he's a rule breaker. And we left at intermission. We left two seats open in the box at the firm.

0:50.9

And I was like, I'm ruining my career.

0:59.7

Thank you. box at the firm, and I was like, I'm ruining my career. This episode is brought to you by Rivian and Chase Home Lending.

1:05.4

Well, hello.

1:06.3

Hi, Craig.

1:07.2

What's it going on?

1:08.7

Not much.

1:09.9

Just enjoying my time out here in L.A. Yeah, L.A. is a good place to be.

1:15.4

We've been here for a few days, so I'm starting to, just as I'm starting to get used to the time zone, it's time to go back.

1:22.4

And the temperature. Oh, don't, I know, I know. I'm dreading going back. But I wrote up today in Rivian. And while this one is a loner, Rivian has been kind enough to outfit us with our own. Yeah. Very excited in our household about our outfitted Rivian. More so the girls because Barack can't drive yet.

1:47.5

Right.

1:48.3

Right.

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