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The Interview

Financier and Brexit backer Stuart Wheeler

The Interview

BBC

Politics, Government, News

4.3538 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2019

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Brexit represents a political gamble played for the highest of stakes. If Britain leaves the EU without a deal there will be significant economic disruption, even the most ardent Brexiteers acknowledge that. But they believe the potential rewards justify the risk. Stephen Sackur speaks to Stuart Wheeler, a successful businessman and lifelong gambler who backed his commitment to Brexit with plenty of his own cash. Has his money given him undue influence over Britain’s future?

Image: Stuart Wheeler (Credit: Yui Mok/PA Wire)

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to a podcast from the BBC World Service.

0:04.1

This is Hard Talk with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:06.9

Thanks for downloading this edition of the program.

0:09.6

I do hope you enjoy it.

0:11.8

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker.

0:16.4

My guest today is a lifelong gambler who, thanks to calculation and luck, has won more than he's lost.

0:25.5

Stuart Wheeler began life with the odds stacked against him.

0:29.0

Some 84 years ago, he was an unwanted baby, given away for adoption.

0:34.3

His first stroke of luck came in the form of his adoptive parents who were loving and well

0:39.5

to do and gave their son a privileged upbringing which saw him educated at Eaton and Oxford University.

0:46.6

He tried his hand at the law and banking, but his real calling was gambling, poker, roulette,

0:53.1

blackjack, bridge, horse racing, anything that he could bet on, he would.

0:58.2

Eventually, betting made him his fortune.

1:00.9

He created a spread betting company, IG, which eventually floated on the London Stock Exchange and made his fortune.

1:08.4

He used the money to fund his growing interest in politics. First, it was

1:13.1

the Conservative Party, including a record gift of five million pounds, but increasingly it was Brexit.

1:21.2

Stuart Wheeler has devoted much of his recent life to backing the Brexit cause. He is the

1:26.8

inveterate gambler who sees Brexit, even a no-deal Brexit,

1:31.8

as a winning bet on Britain's future. But what if he's wrong? Has his money given him undue influence

1:39.1

over Britain's future? Well, he joins me now. Stuart Wheeler, welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you. Would it be fair to

1:47.6

characterize you as a lifelong risk taker? Yes, it would. And what motivated you from a very early

1:56.8

age to want to take so many risks? Well, I didn't know. The first risk I took, I was very,

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