Hello, welcome to the financial therapy episode of Slate Money, your guide to the

Business and Finance News of the Week. Well, this week the business and finance news of our entire lives.

I'm Felix Amun of Axios. I'm here with Anna Schmanski of Breaking Views.

Hello. I'm also here with Emily Peck of Herf Post. And we have for the whole episode and we have for

the whole episode and dominating the entire episode one of the best

humans in the world Amanda Klayman Amanda hello and tell me who you are and tell me about your podcast.

I am a financial therapist and I have a podcast series special series on death sex and money called financial therapy with Amanda

Klayman where we are talking to some people about what is happening in their lives and specifically in their financial lives

since this whole pandemic started.

Because as I believe the technical term is shit has got real right now.

We are going to talk a little bit about, well a lot about our emotional connection to money on an individual sense in terms of savings,

in terms of debts, in terms of families. We have a Slate Plus segment about Families which is worth becoming

a Slate Plus member just to listen to. It's a great episode. And thank you very much to everyone who wrote in with questions that we might be able to put to Amanda.

We actually answer some of them on this show and it's all coming up on slate money. So let's dive into this

Amanda we are in the craziest economic times of our lifetime pretty much. There's rampant

unemployment which dwarfs anything that we saw during the financial crisis, people are weirdly saving a lot more money than they've ever saved in the history of America according to numbers that just came out on Friday.

There's a bunch of people being pulled in... that just

people being pulled in multiple directions.

My first big question for you is psychologically emotionally.

Is this just a crazy unprecedented time for everyone or are you just

seeing the same things, the same problems that you've always been seeing with people and

money maybe just in a slightly more acute fashion. Well we're still the same

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