There it's Gary Pesch. Sunday April 2nd. Welcome back to the Ion College basketball

podcast. Got Matt Norlander here with me and the National Title game is now set. It's

gonna be Gonzaga vs. North Carolina. Here in Glendale, Arizona, Tiffa Sip from Monday night,

920 Eastern. It'll be on CBS. It's America's most watched network. It's the network of stars.

Title game of course, it's a result of Gonzaga beating South Carolina and North Carolina

beating Oregon on Saturday. Two fun games. Did huge television numbers, which was a bit

of a surprise. Norlander was inside University of Phoenix Stadium for both semi finals. I was

mostly outside of University of Phoenix Stadium for both semi finals on a TV set in the

shadows of the home of the Arizona Cardinals. Either way, we're both here in Arizona.

Norlander before we look ahead, look back. What should take away from Gonzaga's 77, 73 victory

on South Carolina? It was, I think I had like 77-71 on the podcast. And I think both teams,

both winning teams scored 77 actually. I'm weird. Listen, South Carolina to make the run

that it did. Definitely had me thinking that the game talks were going to have a really

good chance at winning and that kind of style again. Second half come back, wouldn't die.

Overcoming these teams. I'll plan on the way they had the tournament GP. And didn't happen

in part because Zach Collins played the best game of his career. In fact, you can make

the case as I did when I wrote late Saturday that Carolina and Gonzaga are in the title

game because they got career best games from two big men that no one really predicted heading

into this weekend would happen. I mean, Zach Collins is a future pick in the NBA. No doubt

about it. He'll be, he's won and done without a doubt at this point. But no one thought that

he would be the game-trained player that he would be in that game and no one expected Kennedy

Meeks to tie a career high and go for 25 and 14. So Collins hitting that three was huge

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