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So I was making kebabs on the grill tonight for dinner, and when I started it, I like singed off like half my arm hair what I need

from you guys is to have takes hot enough to sing the rest of it because it looks ridiculous just

half burnt off right now smells horrible too was a kebab good kebab was really good

it's a little plus fuzzy but good otherwise.

Yeah, that's right.

No, this was pre-Khab wasn't on yet when I turned the grill on, obviously.

I'm not a better or smarter person than to try to equally singe the other side.

Like hearing that, I'm like, I might have tried to even that out.

If it didn't smell so bad, I think I probably would have tried that,

but I just can't, it's, it's very annoying. You must have rocked the, the spices if the burning

hair smelled in a ruin your kebab for you. Good for you. I seasoned very heavily. Well,

that's about as appropriate of an opening as our first Red Wings roundtable.

God knows how many months.

And our final mock draft before the 2025 draft, the whole conversation we had before we were recording was absolutely ludicrous and off the rails, which is appropriate for this mock draft because Max and Prachanth, you guys were talking between

like expert analyst consensus and team consensus. This is all over the board. Yes. I mean,

it is interesting. I was putting together our consensus big board at the athletic this week. And in

some ways, like the top, a lot of the same names are showing up in the top 11 or 12,

but very different orders, which I feel like is kind of an every year thing. And then every

once in a while, someone will mix in a curveball. Like, I use Craig Button's list as part of the

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