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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Filmmaker Joachim Trier’s ‘Sentimental’ Family Affair

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Higher Ground

Tv & Film, Film Interviews, Society & Culture

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Following the success of The Worst Person in the World, writer-director Joachim Trier returns this fall with a candid family story in Sentimental Value.

We begin with the guiding words from writer Philip Roth (7:20), how Trier arrived at this intimate new film (8:40), and why he was drawn to father-daughter dynamics (his own, and others) in making this new project (10:00). Then, we talk about Joachim’s early observations growing up in Norway (25:00), why he prefers to be present with performers on set, rather than watching from a far-off monitor (32:00), and how he parlayed skating into his early work as a filmmaker (35:00).

On the back-half, Trier reflects on meeting longtime collaborator, screenwriter and director Eskil Vogt (37:00), the essayistic qualities of his sophomore film, Oslo, August 31st (40:00), and how that style fully solidified in Louder Than Bombs and The Worst Person in the World (42:00). To close, we revisit a recurring monologue in Sentimental Value (48:00), his last day on set with actor Renate Reinsve (50:00), and how director Martin Scorsese has inspired Trier to continue ‘stirring the sauce’ (56:00).

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0:22.1

Lemonada. This is Talk Easy. I'm Stan Forgo, so welcome to the show.

1:00.9

Today, writer-director, Yolkeem Trir.

1:05.6

Last week, we spoke with Noah Bombok about his latest film, Jay Kelly.

1:12.6

And you can imagine a pretty good double feature with Jay Kelly and Trir's latest sentimental value. Both are inside Hollywood ruminations on memory, movies, and regret, especially of the male variety. Well,

1:19.8

actually, of the father variety. Each movie orbits around a man who is too busy making movies to

1:26.1

raise his daughters, And sentimental value,

1:28.7

that man is Norwegian author Gustav Borg, who attempts to reconnect with his two estranged

1:34.5

daughters after the death of their mother, his ex-wife. Although the attempt is a little selfishly

1:40.9

motivated, because Borg, who hasn't made a new film in decades, has a promising script

1:46.5

he's ready to direct. And so in turn, he offers the lead role to his daughter, Nora,

1:51.8

played by Renata Rinesvay, who's a working actor in Oslo. When she rejects his offer for a variety of

1:58.4

reasons, Borg casts an American movie star,

2:01.6

played by L. Fanning.

2:03.2

Here's a moment from the film

2:04.3

where Fanning's character, Rachel,

2:06.4

wonders why Nora didn't take the part

2:08.1

originally written for her.

2:12.2

Why didn't you want to do the role?

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