From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

What I saw and what interested me was everything that surrounded it in trying to explain why two groups of people, white and black, looked at one thing and saw something completely different.

That interested me.

Ezra Edelman knew he had a rare opportunity when ESPN approached him to make a five-hour

documentary about OJ Simpson.

But Edelman had no interest in following the beats of the so-called trial of the century.

Instead, his opus is a deep dive into race in America.

Now, with his nearly eight-hour film, OJ Made in America, shortlisted in the Oscar

race, Edelman talks about how he tackled this massive project, how he got Mark Furman to talk,

and why he hasn't watched the FX series The People v. O.J. Simpson. But first on the news banter,

Lucasfilm looks to launch Rogue One, the first stand-alone Star Wars movie.

But the path was not smooth.

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood Reporter.

Hello, Matt.

Hi there.

So on December 16th, Rogue One, which is the first of the standalone Star Wars movies, will open.

And I will just go back and remind everyone in case they forgot.

A year ago, Star Wars The Force Awakens opened to a staggering number, $248 million just in this country. That is huge.

J.J. Abrams directed it. It really hit all the marks for people who had just been thirsting for a

return to the original magic of Star Wars. I mean, there were complaints about this, that,

and the other thing. But basically, the elements were there. Obviously, the fans responded.

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