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Hi, this is Hope. This is Karine. Hi, this is Katie from Washington DC and you're

listening to Nomead Athlete Radio.

Matt, you know I'm a chaffer. I've had some chafing issues with my relatives.

Yes, you've famously chafed and poisoned ivy and all kinds of things we don't need to know more about.

Lots of stuff down there. I've brought it to a new problem of late, the last few weeks.

Do we want to know it or should we just spare time? Well, maybe less

in not suitable for work than the poison ivy conversation.

Okay, for the first time, maybe since middle school or high school cross-country,

I've been running without a shirt on.

All of a sudden, I went on a longer run the other day, feeling great. It was at night.

It was a little bit rainy and sticky and hot and maybe half way through the long run.

I started chafing underneath my armpits. Oh, yeah. I've never had that problem before.

And it got really bad. It got incredibly painful. It was like running with my arms like sticking

out like a chicken. Have you ever had that before? I've gotten it from running with a shirt on

before. I think it happens to me when my shirt gets wet like from rain.

Okay, not positive about that. I definitely had that when I get in the shower and then I realize

that that area hurts like behind your back under your arms.

I'm the guy who's liberally applying lubricant all over my body, but I've never had

that problem under the armpit before. I think the bigger story here, dog, is that you're running

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