Hi, I'm Otto. Welcome to Ellen Sarah's podcast.

Today we do not have Sarah, which is just such a relief. It is just me, your favorite foster,

Erin, and we have Marley Steinman's very interesting episode. It's about fertility journeys.

Marley is, she has a very unique job. She's a surrogacy consultant, and so I don't think that there's

many of them out there. She wants to just basically help parenthood possible for everybody and help

you navigate it. And so she works with people who are going through IVF and need guidance,

people who are looking for potential surrogate or egg donor or sperm donor, and she just kind of

helps you navigate everything. She sort of, she'll help you build a team around you,

and guide you every step of the way. And it makes it less stressful and help you just focus on

what's important instead of all the stress around it. So she's doing God's work, people.

And even if you're not somebody who's going through fertility issues, we talk a lot about how

to support someone who is. So if you have someone in your life who's going through this,

kind of the right things to say, the things that we beg you to please not say to that person.

And Marley has been through it herself. She went through fertility journey, and she also is a

licensed psychologist, marriage, and family therapist. So she knows what she's talking about,

and even if you aren't having fertility issues, good for you, but you should listen to this anyway,

because there's information for everyone. This is the episode.

Hi. Hi, Marley. It's early. It's 830 in the morning.

Yes, it sure is. I'm sorry about that. I apologize. I've had to do a funny schedule lately.

No worries. Up and five with the kids. So you're up at 5 a.m. Yes.

Sarah and I are very triggered by women who are able to get up at 5 a.m.

I'm not able. There's no option. Before kids, it was like 9 a.m.

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