Files And Tribulations
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Politix
4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 July 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
The race is on between Donald Trump, who’s desperately trying to put down the raging scandal surrounding his Jeffrey Epstein lies (whatever they happen to be) and Democrats who are finally engaged, and trying to pry the truth loose. Who’s gonna win?
In this episode, Matt and Brian discuss:
* How has the Epstein scandal developed over the past week?
* Why have Democrats been uninterested in all matters Epstein, both recently and over many years of right-wing conspiracy theories?
* What’s the likeliest explanation of why Trump is behaving so desperately now?
Then, behind the paywall, we tackle a bunch of pressing questions: what have Democrats done thus far to move the story forward? What more could they do? Will the files be released, or will the story fizzle? Could “the Epstein files” be the thing that finally creates real, lasting political problems for Trump? And what would it say about America if this—rather than matters of major civic significance, like COVID failures and the insurrection—becomes the thing that finally brings Trump low?
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Further reading:
* Matt wrote, “I’m not deeply invested in any theory about Epstein, but I always thought Democrats blew it by not pushing for some oversight here,” way back in 2021.
* Brian on how the Epstein saga illustrates the need for Democrats to get outside their comfort zones, and how they might use this opportunity to wage war on the entire right-wing bad-faith media complex.
* The 2002 Epstein profile that started it all: “‘I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,’ Trump booms from a speakerphone. ‘He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.’”
* Julie Brown, the reporter who broke the real Epstein trafficking scandal, weighs in with The Bulwark.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | I have never in my life as a, you know, 30 to 40-something middle-aged man had a situation where I had a social friend who was hanging out with girls who were so young that it occurred to me to say, this guy's a creep and I ought to ban him from coming to my house. |
| 0:27.2 | Hey, everyone, you're listening to a free preview of the politics podcast. We're well into |
| 0:32.4 | week two of the Trump-Ebstein scandal. Donald Trump and MAGA are now trying to shut it down. |
| 0:39.6 | Democrats are actually taking some steps to keep it alive. So we'll talk about what's happened, |
| 0:45.0 | how Democrats have responded, how Republicans have clammed up, and what more they can do. |
| 0:52.1 | And whether we think this is likely to fizzle or whether it'll break |
| 0:55.1 | wide open. If you want to hear the whole conversation, you can upgrade your subscription to paid |
| 0:59.1 | at politics.fm. |
| 1:05.1 | Hey, everyone, welcome to the politics podcast. I'm Brian Boyler. |
| 1:08.1 | I'm Matthew Glazias. |
| 1:09.4 | Should we just get right into it? So much Epstein news. |
| 1:12.9 | Epstein? It's all happening. Yeah. I I don't want to get too excited because like, you know, |
| 1:22.4 | I'll count my chickens and then the story will go away. But a lot has happened since last week's episode, |
| 1:27.9 | which was also about Jeffrey Epstein. More or less, I think I have it, I have it all collected |
| 1:32.6 | here. The timeline since then is, so right around then, the Department of Justice, presumably |
| 1:39.7 | under Donald Trump's orders, closed the Epstein case and announced, you know, psych, there's no |
| 1:45.5 | Epstein list, just kidding about all the stuff we said about the Epstein list. |
| 1:50.3 | So people on the right felt like this was a really serious rugpole, and they were actually |
| 1:55.7 | mad about it, right? |
| 1:56.5 | And that includes real MAGA people and also Trump adjacent pop culture online people podcast |
| 2:05.1 | bros who actually care about this story but then things like keep getting worse so at a |
| 2:11.2 | cabinet meeting last week someone's asking Pam Bondi a reporter's asking Pam Bondi a really tough question about what she had said about the Epstein files in the past. |
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