Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

What's up, STDS Nation, and welcome to this very special episode of Surviving the Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guests in all of true crime and

today two of my very favorites although one is only here and one's website is buffering and he's not here but we

welcome America's most respected detective Bill Waters who is joining us from the Big Island of Hawaii, and we, it appears that after

the 977th episode, Scott Duffy's browser is not working and I just had a

Phil and Scott moment which I'm going to tell you about momentarily.

And this, by the way, is not just any Phil and Scott

episode.

If you look at the thumbnail, please do.

This is story time with Phil and Scott. This is story time with Phil and Scott, but the problem is we don't have Scott. So in real time, once again, it's probably the seventh time this week that we're doing this

I'm gonna have to figure things out on the fly and kind of as we are

Doing this and kind of as we are doing this Scott Duffy has been working on a special side job that I cannot reveal and I don't know if he might be out of typical web or internet

service because the stuff he's doing is in a highly secured area and a very remote part of Pennsylvania that no one on

planet Earth is allowed to know about. Bill Waters have you heard from Scott

Duffy since the last time I heard from Scott Duffy?

He says he's trying to restart his browser.

Well, he was using Fire Fox and he needs to be using Trump.

So I think that's the that's the big issues.

And Phil, do I detect a cold of your own? I have been battling a coronavirus but are you do you have a cold no no

no it's just it happens to be 7 a.m. here. So you're getting my just getting up in the morning voice. Oh, there you go. Looks beautiful there for seven. What time does it's a sunrise in Hawaii on the big

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