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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Fighting Cartels That Are Fueling the Fentanyl Crisis (w/Jack Riley)- Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.8607 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Partners: HVMN – You can find Ketone-IQ at https://hvmn.com/changeagents to save 30% on your first subscription. Jack Riley is the retired Deputy Administrator of the DEA, the administration’s No. 2 position. He led the manhunt team that captured notorious Mexican cartel leader Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán and is the author of the book Drug Warrior: Inside the Hunt for El Chapo and the Rise of America's Opioid Crisis. He is an expert on Mexican drug cartels and the roots of the modern fentanyl crisis. On this episode of Chang Agents, Andy and Jack discuss what can be done to stop the flow of drugs into the country. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Shop IRONCLAD Apparel: https://shop.thisisironclad.com/ Change Agents is an IRONCLAD original. Visit https://www.thisisironclad.com to learn more. Be sure to subscribe to @thisisironclad on YouTube and major social platforms. Follow us on Social - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thisisironclad Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThisIsIRONCLAD#changeagents #Andystumpf #ironclad Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When did you first hear the term fentanyl?

0:03.0

It would have been in the mid-80s.

0:05.0

There was an actual real chemist that worked for DuPont, and he was the first one that actually put fentanyl together.

0:14.0

Of course, it had been a pharmaceutical and had been in research for long periods of time,

0:20.0

but he got into the lab and was able to get the precursors

0:23.1

and made a batch of it.

0:26.1

And he had, because of who he was,

0:27.7

he had no way to get it on the street.

0:30.2

So what he did was he began a cat and mouse game

0:32.8

with some people that turned out to be our informants.

0:44.3

But there were several batches that he sold, and there was, I think there was 20 to 30 overdoses, many of them fatal, within a certain period of time.

0:48.3

And we were eventually able to figure out who it was.

0:51.3

And that sent shockwaves through everybody, because anybody that understood

0:56.0

what fentanyl could do,

0:58.0

specifically if it could be produced,

1:00.0

was really, was often.

1:04.0

How can I help?

1:05.0

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

1:09.0

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

1:14.6

We have to organize a social movement.

1:18.6

We have an opportunity to lead, by example,

1:21.6

versus just talking, hot air.

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