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Amanpour

Fighting Back Against Trump

Amanpour

CNN

News

4.2929 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Harvard University has refused to bow to President Trump's demands to drop DEI measures and punish student protesters. While some universities like Columbia buckled under the financial pressure and Trump's demands, Harvard is not alone in resisting. Among those fighting back is Wesleyan University, whose own federal funding has been threatened. School President Michael Roth joins Christiane from Connecticut.  Also on today's show: David Gibson, Director, Center on Religion and Culture, Fordham University; author Kelsey Osgood ("Godstruck")  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The president has been quite clear they must follow federal law.

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He also wants to see Harvard apologize.

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But Harvard won't be cowed and others are now standing up to Trump.

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Michael Roth, president of Wesleyan University, joins me.

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