What if there was a better way to talk to all your friends than through a thousand different messaging apps on a thousand different platforms?

What if you could just find the show you wanted without browsing through infinite tiles in a hundred different streaming apps?

What if you could have all of your stuff everywhere without dealing with some crummy user interface on some unknowable file sharing platform?

This month on the Vergecast, we're looking into connectivity. How we talk to each other, how we talk to our stuff, how we find things online.

All this month, on the Vergecast, available wherever you get podcasts.

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Welcome back to The Fighter vs. The Rider. I am your host, as always, Damon Martin.

And today, I am so honored to be joined by the first ever UFC Flyweight Champion, and a fighter I've talked to a lot over the last few years, and I'm so excited to chat with today.

Welcome in, Nico, Montana, and Nico. Welcome in. How are you?

I'm well. How are you doing today?

I am fantastic. And Nico, I mentioned before we got started. I think over the last few years, you know, you've probably done more interviews with me than any other outlet, which I'll say I'd very much appreciate that.

But so much has been going on it. And typically the format of this show is we just kind of discussed whatever's going on in MMA in MMA.

But you've had so much going on in your life over these last few years. I feel like we just have a lot to dive into.

So let me ask, I don't want to play therapist here, but let me just say, how are you? How are things?

I'm good. You know, there's a lot going on with the utilities business.

I'm still my manager and I are in the same, um, we're partners in it.

So we're going to be going to a couple of chapter meetings here on the rise this week and start to really get things into, you know, get motions rolling.

Um, and other than that, you know, I'm still training here and there during what I can, um, until I hear word that, you know, I can hop in the cage again, either, you know, underbelly tour or whatever.

PFL. So yeah, let me, let me first talk about your, your project. I know we did the story on your, your passion for the first nation project working with utilities.

I know that's kind of been a passion of yours for a while now. How is that going? And I know that's like kind of like a never ending battle really.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like definitely the Navajo Nation is in need of, you know, running water utilities. Um, Wi-Fi.

Like, like I was saying, I don't remember if I'd mentioned it, but only half of the kids graduated from chimney in my old high school where my sister graduated, because during COVID, they weren't able to finish off school, um, in, uh,

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