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Welcome back to the Fighter versus the writer.

I am Damon Martin.

He is UFC legend Matt Brown.

And before we recorded tonight, Matt, we had to spend about 20 minutes talking about metal music, as you and I do from time to time.

And I'm curious, Matt, we talk about metal off air a lot.

I'm just curious.

We were just talking about concerts and shows coming to Columbus, things like that. Is there a band you've never seen that you would love to see? Like in terms of like, if there's one band that could like come to town and you'd be like, I got to see that band, who is it? Because you've seen a lot of shows. I've seen a lot of shows. I've seen a lot of shows. I've just mentioned nine inch nails is coming and they're like one of my all-time favorite bands. I've never seen them live. So, of course, I got tickets. Is there a band out there you've never seen that you're like, I got to see them at some point? Yeah, there's probably more than one to be honest. First one, it comes to mind because we were just talking about it was Musuga. Yeah. That's an absolute must see at some point before they retire or do whatever they do.

You know, it's not possible, I don't think, but you know, what I would love to see is the original sepulterra.

Oh, yeah.

That would be the one. If I could just pick one in history, it'd probably be the original Sepulterra, like a rise or KSAD era. Yeah. You know, it's crazy about that. So I think I mentioned on the, I may have mentioned this on the show, Soulfly, who is, you know, obviously the new band after they broke up. You know, a sublre broke up. Their new album is called Chama.

They named it after Alex Pereira because he walks out to... I didn't know that. He walks out to Sepuletur. He walks out to... Sorry from Sempeltura. That's always his walkout song. And Matt Cavalera was so... Like, he's like, oh, that's so cool. So the name of the new Soulfly album that's coming out either later this or early next year,

it's called Chama.

It's in tribute to Alex Pereira.

And our guy, Guillermo Cruz, the Brazilian Bees, the Brazilian legend. I told him about it. And I did a little story about it. He's like, oh, and he reached out because Max is Brazilian, of course. He reached out. And Max's wife got back to him and said, sure, like, he'll do an interview. So he's like, do you mind doing it by email? And he's like, all right. So he sends in the questions. She sends him a handwritten letter from Max Cavalera writing down his answers to the questions about Alex and stuff. And I was like, you've got to get that framed, right? And he's like, oh, yeah, I'm getting it framed. Like, it's literally just like his wife, like, typed out the questions on a piece of paper. And Max literally hand wrote the answers in Portuguese. And I was like, that's so fucking cool. I was like, dude, I would frame that immediately. Yeah, that's pretty cool, man. I didn't know.

I guess the album hasn't come out.

I hadn't heard that, man.

That's really cool. Yeah, it comes out. I want to say maybe it's come out in November because I got a pre-order for vinyl. And I said, Chalman, I was like, that can't be a mistake. And then I looked it up. And sure enough, like he confirmed, like, he loved that Alex always walks out to their song at Sari.

That's always his walkout songs.

It's been his walkout song since he got to the

UFC and he's like I just wanted he's like I love that energy I love that Alex walks out to

sepeltura so I wanted to honor him so their new album is called Chamba I love that bro

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