I'm Ashley C. Ford, and I host Into the Mix, a Ben & Jerry's podcast about joy and justice produced with Vox Creative.

For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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You're listening to the fighter versus the writer.

I am Damon Martin.

He is UFC legend Matt Brown. And Matt, we are officially two weeks away, less than two weeks away, from the massive UFC event in Madison

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There's an apex event this coming weekend with Carlos Pretace and your guy, Neil Magny.

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