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The Eurointelligence Podcast

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The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

News, Eu, European Politics, Political Economy, Italy, Brexit, Recovery Fund, Political Risk, Business, European Union, Netherlands, Ecb, Economics, Uk, Fiscal Union, Government, Transatlantic Relations, European Integration, France, Geopolitics, Eurozone, Banking, China, Spain, Germany, Political Union, Politics, Trade, Eu-china

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🗓️ 10 April 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

In our latest podcast, our team discusses how we should react to Donald Trump's tariffs.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Euro Intelligence Podcast. I'm Wolfgang Munchau and with me are Susanna Monshank and Jack Smith.

0:06.7

Today we want to talk about the tariffs, what they will do to our economies and how we should react to them.

0:14.4

This is Wednesday, the 9th of April, is the day number one when the new tariffs on China have been implemented.

0:23.4

It's a 104% tariff on Chinese industrial goods, slightly lower tariffs for cheaper goods.

0:29.5

It's a massive escalation in the trade.

0:32.9

Well, fast escalation.

0:34.1

The Chinese implemented a 34% tariff only on the weekend, and Trump is already

0:39.0

not only announced a tariff, but implemented another 304% within a day or two. Today, Wednesday,

0:50.3

the European Commission is also expected to endorse a package of retaliatory measures.

0:56.6

So the world is heading into what one might call a trade war, characterized by tit-for-tat sanctions

1:03.3

and tariffs.

1:04.4

The economic implications are very serious.

1:06.8

We saw over the last few days, very serious disturbances in the global bond markets,

1:12.6

the 10-year treasury bond, went up by almost 60 basis points from its low point.

1:18.6

It reached in early April, early just a few days ago, to now about 4.5% as we speak for the yield

1:25.5

on the 10-year.

1:26.5

These are massive distortions happening in such

1:28.9

as short period time. It's not a level thing because when Trump came to power in January,

1:34.8

the bond yields were much higher. They were over 4.7, 4.7 to 4.8% territory. So they're actually

1:41.8

still lower than they were back then. But what matters in these

1:45.1

situations always is the speed of change. And the speed of change in the last few days would suggest to me

1:51.6

that there must be some level of financial stress. There must be panic selling going on in some

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